Informed Comment
Informed Comment
How exactly is this a conspiracy theory?
The Pope, by his remarks, is lending comfort to those who want to stir hatred between Muslims and Christians. And the Iraq war was called for and supported by many outspoken Zionists. People with the same mindset are also behind the cartoons and are engaged in various schemes to schemes to stir up emnity. They feel that if they can provoke Muslims into violence, they can then point to the violence and say "I told you so." This will make it more likely that their policies vis-a-vis immigration and other issues are followed. This is not a conspiracy; there's nothing secret about it.
posted by Abu Mahmoud @ 8:02 AM
27 Comments:
I justdiscovered your blog through Khaled's!
You're right ... but I think by reacting with even MORE violence afterwards, we don't help in ANY way! We must stand above that ... please read what I wrote on my blog today - and one post some two or three days ago "Pope benedikt B peace"! Tell me what you think ...
Best regards from Munich!
Luqman.im not a so called educated person and never got beyond high school.most of my life i respected the religion of others but the pass few years since 9-11 i look at it in a totally different light. maybe it was the media that made me change my views or maybe it was things like this i see, http://www.petitiononline.com/Malak/petition.html
how can i respect a religion that stones people to death? i see the news and thousands of muslims chanting death to the west.i see violent people and a violent religion.i fear them and im starting to think someday my grandchildren will be fighting them in order to survive.
As-salaamu 'alaikum,
I saw this post as a response to a misleading article on Khomeini. It was a good comment, Ramadan mubarakum wa salaam.
I can't comment on the case you've sited above. I don't know the particulars and I am insufficiently familiar with shi'ite law to say whether this is in accord with it. However, in Sunni law, which can only be enforced by an Islamic State, the standards of evidence for convicting someone of adultery are very high. In addition, 'adultery' (cheating on the spouse) is a different offense from fornication (which is an unmarried person sleeping with another unmarried person). While the former is a capital crime (which is, by its nature, difficult to prove) the latter, while still maintaining a high standard of evidence, is punishable by flogging (and there are regulations regarding how this is to be done to prevent any barbarism). Rape is most certainly NOT considered to be a kind of adultery; it is a crime against the woman. As for seeing pictures of people chanting death, one has to be mindful of who is doing the translating and how the shots are framed. The media has a pronounced tendency to use those shots which show muslims in a bad light while ignoring those which show them peacefully protesting. Why would your grandchildren be fighting Muslims for survival? We want justice and at times that requires a resort to arms (though only as a last resort). We have no quarrel with people who are content to live in peace with us. Islam is certainly not anymore inherently violent than either Judaism or Hinduism, yet the crimes commited by members of these religions either go unreported or are dissociated from the religions themselves. Even a very pacifistic religion like Buddhism has bloody parts in its history, as do all of the secular ideologies prevalent in the world. The problem is with human beings who are giving into a sickness of their hearts, a sickness which allows them to overcome by their passions, lusts, and desires. This sickness respects no denominational boundaries.
Another thing which I really shouldn't have to mention but will because of the prevalent prejudice against against Islam: even in those cases where it is necessary to take up arms there are strict rules that must be followed. These rules protect non-combatants and prevent scorched-earth tactics. Terrorism (attacks against civilians) is not allowed.
Table Mountains,
(I’m not even sure if you will come back to Lugman’s blog and see this response—still, I felt the need to respond as an “Average US American.”)
Point 1:
As I am not a Muslim, I cannot comment on Islam as a religion/way of life. I can say, however, that as a US American, I feel more threatened by Fundamental Christianity than by Islam.
Point 2:
Lugman is absolutely right about the need to be wary of how the media portrays certain events and people. I don’t usually mistrust the media (though I am selective about which media sources I use to stay informed), but I always keep in mind that the information that I get from the media is incomplete. One of the complaints I hear from US Americans is that the media only gives the bad news about their local area, never the good. I think that this is applicable to the news we receive of “others.” Those of us outside the Middle East are bombarded by images of death and violence, yet we almost never see or hear anything good about Islam, Arabs, Persians, or North Africans. Even with all this death and hatred, I find it difficult to believe that this is the entire picture. Why? Because every morning I wake up to a US newspaper telling me about US crime and murder and rape, but when I go to work, I see people who are generous, caring, nonviolent, and who work to make the lives of others better. People are human beings, and as such they possess a range of emotions, drives, and characteristics. Any group (be it German, Baptist, North African, or Arab) is made up of these individuals who, while they may join together to achieve a common goal, are always more than the two-dimensional face that stares at us from a television screen.
Point 3:
As part of my job, I work with foreigners who have come to the United States to live, work, and/or study. One of the most frequent concerns that arises as I speak with newcomers is their fear of crime in the United States. Their impression of the USA, formed from television, Hollywood movies, newspapers, news broadcasts, and magazines is that the United States is a dangerous, violent place, filled with guns, drugs, and prostitution. These newcomers worry about getting shot, getting robbed or attacked, or having their homes broken into. Some worry about the US government monitoring their speech and actions. Some (especially the Muslim/Arab/Persian/African/North African/Asian/Central and South American newcomers) worry about how they will be treated by US Americans. Will they be harassed? Will they be attacked? Will they be killed simply for being different? When I’ve traveled abroad, people have expressed the same concerns to me: “What will happen to me if I go to the United States?” In short, they view us as “[a] violent people [with] a violent religion. [They] fear [us] and [they are] starting to think someday [their] grandchildren will be fighting [us] in order to survive.”
ovonia red>>> i do come back and check for comments. i saw your response as you claim your an average american.
i then went and loked at your blog and saw this.
""" Next time missionaries knock on your door on 9-11, throw on a head scarf before answering the door and tell them you are a Muslim.)"""
in your point 1: you claim you cannot comment on Islam as a religion/way of life. with that statement in your thread you did! you told me much more about yourself then you dare hope to reveal in your comments here.
TM--that was an ironic comment.
DJ
ovonia,you should of learned now irony,quoting 14 century byzantine emperors,drawing a cartoon is not tolerated.each day more will be added to the list by the religion of peace.
oooops! i forgot to add opera's !!!
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